Jun 13

I’m late, I’m late, I’m late for a very important date. Ok, so I nearly forgot to put my tips up again, anyway…

On the face of things, another boring week, with most tips falling the way of the bookie (although those boring tips pulled in another 7 winners last week). The Demons look down and out at around $3.00, but because Punter has them at even odds with Richmond I’d think they might be half a chance. I’m hanging out for the Bombers game tonight. With the numbers tilted that much, I might also be inclined to look at the Eagles, as they have not seen those sort of percentages for a long time.

Probability Punter Bookie
Gold Silver
Bombers:    16.444% $6.08 $1.88
Eagles:    83.556% $1.20 $1.90
Western Bulldogs:    53.087% $1.88 $1.46
Lions:    46.913% $2.13 $2.70
Dockers:    12.451% $8.03 $1.78
Kangaroos:    87.549% $1.14 $2.00
Swans:    66.610% $1.50 $1.23
Saints:    33.390% $2.99 $4.00
Crows:    52.734% $1.90 $1.95
Hawks:    47.266% $2.12 $1.83
Cats:    68.761% $1.45 $1.18
Power:    31.239% $3.20 $4.70
Magpies:    61.201% $1.63 $1.37
Blues:    38.799% $2.58 $3.00
Tigers:    49.919% $2.00 $1.36
Demons:    50.081% $2.00 $3.10
Premiership: 61 correct tips from 88 games. 69.32% accuracy.
Pre-Season: 10 correct tips from 15 games. 66.67% accuracy.
Total: 71 correct tips from 103 games. 68.93% accuracy.
30/38 79%
4/7 57%
34/45 76%
16/27 59%
3/4 75%
19/31 61%
Jun 3

It lives, it lives… ok, so my computer is a pile of crap, but it is working (for now). Until the next catastrophe I have some more tips, yay.

I’m glad I got my tips out last week, otherwise my cred would be dashed. 7 out 8 was not too bad, but once again all tips were the favorites. Pretty much the same story this week, but with perhaps a less subtle twist. Statistically speaking, the home team wins around 60% of the time, but this week I only have two home teams tipped. Of course this pattens works it’s way out in various forms, but in theory about 4-5 home teams should win this week, but of course there are many factors effecting that.

So who could be a likely candidate (if any)? Given the close nature I think the Kangaroos could be a good chance to rock the boat, and with what should be some home ground advantage, West Coast might have half a chance of getting up. Also, for the record, Port Adelaide have the best record at home, but with a more inform Carlton things could be tight.

Probability Punter Bookie
Gold Silver
Kangaroos:    45.185% $2.21 $5.50
Cats:    54.815% $1.82 $1.15
Tigers:    33.317% $3.00 $2.55
Crows:    66.683% $1.50 $1.50
Bombers:    1.070% $93.47 $6.50
Hawks:    98.930% $1.01 $1.11
Eagles:    33.653% $2.97 $3.90
Swans:    66.347% $1.51 $1.25
Lions:    98.930% $1.01 $1.16
Dockers:    1.070% $93.42 $5.25
Saints:    41.260% $2.42 $2.70
Western Bulldogs:    58.740% $1.70 $1.46
Power:    53.618% $1.87 $1.12
Blues:    46.382% $2.16 $6.00
Demons:    33.669% $2.97 $9.00
Magpies:    66.331% $1.51 $1.06
Premiership: 54 correct tips from 80 games. 67.50% accuracy.
Pre-Season: 10 correct tips from 15 games. 66.67% accuracy.
Total: 64 correct tips from 95 games. 67.37% accuracy.
24/32 75%
4/7 57%
28/39 72%
16/26 62%
3/4 75%
19/30 63%
May 30

GAAAAA, I hate computers!!!! The lateness of these tips is due to the meltdown of my computer, but luckily I’d already drafted this up before disaster stuck. With some ammount of luck I have not lost too much Punter based material, but suffice to say that I don’t have the concentration to provide any commentry for this weeks tips. Fingers crossed that there will be tips for next week, but no doubt an update will be coming soon….

Probability Punter Bookie
Gold Silver
Crows: 72.763% $1.37 $1.07
Bombers: 27.237% $3.67 $8.50
Magpies: 56.942% $1.76 $1.20
Eagles: 43.058% $2.32 $4.50
Hawks: 52.890% $1.89 $1.41
Western Bulldogs: 47.110% $2.12 $2.90
Lions: 50.084% $2.00 $1.23
Kangaroos: 49.916% $2.00 $4.05
Cats: 65.134% $1.54 $1.12
Blues: 34.866% $2.87 $6.25
Swans: 64.974% $1.54 $1.22
Tigers: 35.026% $2.85 $4.25
Saints: 55.670% $1.80 $1.33
Demons: 44.330% $2.26 $3.30
Dockers: 12.403% $8.06 $1.97
Power: 87.597% $1.14 $1.83
Premiership: 47 correct tips from 72 games. 65.28% accuracy.
Pre-Season: 10 correct tips from 15 games. 66.67% accuracy.
Total: 57 correct tips from 87 games. 65.52% accuracy.
20/28 71%
4/7 57%
24/35 69%
13/22 59%
3/4 75%
16/26 62%
May 21

A fairly good result last round with 7 correct, so what does this round hold? I did notice last week that the results of punter did align highly with the bookies. This has perked my interest and will be something worth investigating.

For this week, the Swans seem to be the surprise packet of value. I’m not sure exactly what the history is between these two teams, but I would think Sydney are a good chance of an upset. The Saints could also be a bit of value, but I don’t think I’d want my life to depend on the Saints producing a predictable result.

Probability Punter Bookie
Gold Silver
Magpies:    33.140% $3.02 $4.50
Cats:    66.860% $1.50 $1.21
Blues:    42.350% $2.36 $1.80
Dockers:    57.650% $1.73 $2.00
Power:    28.331% $3.53 $1.56
Swans:    71.669% $1.40 $2.45
Bombers:    37.754% $2.65 $3.25
Tigers:    62.246% $1.61 $1.35
Eagles:    20.185% $4.95 $3.55
Crows:    79.815% $1.25 $1.30
Lions:    63.454% $1.58 $1.23
Saints:    36.546% $2.74 $4.25
Demons:    13.367% $7.48 $12.50
Hawks:    86.633% $1.15 $1.03
Western Bulldogs:    52.177% $1.92 $1.44
Kangaroos:    47.823% $2.09 $2.80
Premiership: 43 correct tips from 64 games. 67.19% accuracy.
Pre-Season: 10 correct tips from 15 games. 66.67% accuracy.
Total: 53 correct tips from 79 games. 67.09% accuracy.
18/24 75%
4/7 57%
22/31 71%
12/20 60%
3/4 75%
15/24 63%
May 14

Let the games begin (again). Sideshows aside, it’s back to business. North Melbourne play on the Gold Coast after snubbing them as their new home, and can Melbourne back up the last rounds effort with another win?

The numbers don’t exactly show anything ground breaking this week, with all but one of the predictions aligning very nicely with the bookies. I don’t think there will be much in the Saints clash with both teams being up & down, making it a little unstable to have a stab at. If I had to take one tip, I might look at Carlton, with perhaps some value there.

Also this week, I have a new format for my results. I have tried to streamline the appearance to make it simpler, but if you have any feedback feel free to leave comments about it.

Probability Punter Bookie
Gold Silver
Saints:    63.698% $1.57 $2.37
Magpies:    36.302% $2.75 $1.62
Hawks:    55.544% $1.80 $1.40
Power:    44.456% $2.25 $3.05
Tigers:    18.578% $5.38 $5.00
Cats:    81.422% $1.23 $1.19
Blues:    37.692% $2.65 $2.05
Lions:    62.308% $1.60 $1.82
Kangaroos:    59.821% $1.67 $1.25
Eagles:    40.179% $2.49 $4.20
Crows:    78.907% $1.27 $1.10
Demons:    21.093% $4.74 $7.50
Swans:    72.778% $1.37 $1.11
Bombers:    27.222% $3.67 $7.25
Dockers:    21.581% $4.63 $2.10
Western Bulldogs:    78.419% $1.28 $1.78
Premiership: 36 correct tips from 56 games. 64.29% accuracy.
Pre-Season: 10 correct tips from 15 games. 66.67% accuracy.
Total: 46 correct tips from 71 games. 64.79% accuracy.
14/20 70%
4/7 57%
18/27 67%
10/17 59%
3/4 75%
13/21 62%
May 7

With the equivalent of an AFL intermission upon us this week, I thought it time that I add something with some more content.

It is obvious that the Eagles are in a world of pain at the moment. The burning question is when will the pain end? The dilemma of the Eagles is not necessarily an unusual one, but perhaps just amplified little at the moment. The loss of their two key mid-fielders over the summer has left a gaping hole the size of a small pacific nation. Add to that a long list of injuries, and perhaps some less than well timed suspensions, and the Eagles are at a point where they would battle to win an under 14s high school game.

So we basically know what the problem is, but as an Eagles supporter there is only one question that bounces around in ones head; when will the next win come? Most will probably have heard the expression of a team being ‘due’ for a win, but what exactly does that mean? To me this is referring to an unwritten rule of thumb that a team can’t continue to lose forever. To quote a piece of popular culture: “On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.”. This is oh so true for football teams that are winning, and although opposite often holds true for losing team, there is the odd exception like poor Fitzroy. I digress.

Instead of pondering the idea of when the Eagles might likely rise to the winners list, I have put together some numbers on how often team wins when on particular winning/losing streaks. The following graphs is based is a combination of all teams, and shows the percentage of times that a team wins when having a certain number of consecutive wins. -ve consecutive wins is consecutive losses.

Consecutive Game vs. % of Wins

The thin blue line is the actual data extracted from my records, the red line is the calculated best fit for the data, and the thick blue line is my hand predicted trend for this graph.

From this an obvious pattern emerges. As teams start to string together more games, their chances of continuing to wins increases, to a point. The opposite also seems to hold true. Once a teams starts to drop into the darkness, it is long way out. Not immediately apparent from the graph, but looking at the raw data there is a strange trend around the point after one consecutive win/loss, albeit very slight. For a team who has won only one consecutive game, they win only 47% of their next games, giving them a better chance of losing the following week. Similarly, those teams with one straight loss win 52% of their next games.

From this sort of graph, we can step back and assess where the Eagles sit in the scheme of things. The Eagles are sitting on 6 straight losses right now, which puts them in the thick of the bad side of this graph, but they do seem to be reaching a point where they should be ‘due’ for a win.

As someone who tries to sit back and look at these sort of graphs, many questions enter my mind. Why is it that at about 10 losses it that the fortunes of teams seem to start to improve? Could this be explain by players returning from injury? What is the average injury time for an AFL player? Could it be young teams that have a greater effect on this? Is 9 week the sort of time frame needed before they start to get their game together, or is there something else causing this effect? Of course keeping things like the Punter system in mind, the other burning question for me is that is this something that I give to my system and let it learn this? I have done some preliminary tests and this appears to be a learnable dataset for Punter, so this could perhaps be part of future improvements to the way Punter picks games ….

Cheers,
Hoopa

May 1

I’m an avid West Coast supporter, but even I have to have to be realistic at times and say that Punter’s tip for the Eagles vs. Blues clash is most likely WAY out. I live in hope, but my expectations are not very high for an Eagles upset.


All in all, it seems all of the favorites have been picked and a fairly boring week of tips… but then my eye spies the Demons vs. Dockers game

At first glance something seems to have gone terribly wrong as I thought these sort of odds shouldn’t physically be able to come out of the Punter system ???? I will be most interested to look at the numbers for that game, as it seems that there is something special about those stats. Let’s hope for Melbourne’s sake the score is not that bad.


Home Team Probability Away Team Probability Gold Silver
Eagles 71.883%
Blues 28.117%
Bookie:
$2.35
Punter:
$1.39
Bookie:
$1.62
Punter:
$3.56
Silver Star Game
Cats 70.998%
Lions 29.002%
Bookie:
$1.18
Punter:
$1.41
Bookie:
$5.10
Punter:
$3.45
Gold Star Game
Hawks 58.837%
Magpies 41.163%
Bookie:
$1.55
Punter:
$1.70
Bookie:
$2.50
Punter:
$2.43
Silver Star Game
Tigers 45.878%
Saints 54.122%
Bookie:
$2.45
Punter:
$2.18
Bookie:
$1.57
Punter:
$1.85
Crows 61.846%
Kangaroos 38.154%
Bookie:
$1.50
Punter:
$1.62
Bookie:
$2.65
Punter:
$2.62
Gold Star Game
Swans 57.395%
Western Bulldogs 42.605%
Bookie:
$1.48
Punter:
$1.74
Bookie:
$2.72
Punter:
$2.35
Silver Star Game
Demons 2.296%
Dockers 97.704%
Bookie:
$3.65
Punter:
$43.55
Bookie:
$1.30
Punter:
$1.02
Gold Star Game
Bombers 25.086%
Power 74.914%
Bookie:
$3.15
Punter:
$3.99
Bookie:
$1.38
Punter:
$1.33
Gold Star Game
Premiership: 31 correct picks from 48 games. 64.58% accuracy.
Pre-Season: 11 correct picks from 15 games. 73.33% accuracy.
Total: 42 correct picks from 63 games. 66.67% accuracy.
11/16 69%
4/7 57%
15/23 65%
9/14 64%
4/4 100%
13/18 72%
Apr 23

Well, from the look of things this week, the ANZAC day clash should be good game, with very little between the two teams. Might be a tiny bit of value in it, but I doubt it.

The game that stands out for me is the Power vs. Saints game. I don’t rate the Saints highly at the best of times, and statistically speaking Port has a an envious record at home. That said, I would have thought that Saints would be at least even odds given the poor start for the Power this year. Should be interesting.

Home Team Probability Away Team Probability Gold Silver
Magpies 49.849%
Bombers 50.151%
Bookie:
$1.53
Punter:
$2.01
Bookie:
$2.50
Punter:
$1.99
Dockers 15.352%
Cats 84.648%
Bookie:
$4.85
Punter:
$6.51
Bookie:
$1.18
Punter:
$1.18
Gold Star Game
Blues 38.289%
Crows 61.711%
Bookie:
$2.12
Punter:
$2.61
Bookie:
$1.72
Punter:
$1.62
Western Bulldogs 62.676%
Eagles 37.324%
Bookie:
$1.25
Punter:
$1.60
Bookie:
$4.00
Punter:
$2.68
Gold Star Game
Power 36.197%
Saints 63.803%
Bookie:
$1.67
Punter:
$2.76
Bookie:
$2.20
Punter:
$1.57
Lions 62.259%
Demons 37.741%
Bookie:
$1.10
Punter:
$1.61
Bookie:
$7.00
Punter:
$2.65
Silver Star Game
Kangaroos 63.804%
Swans 36.196%
Bookie:
$1.95
Punter:
$1.57
Bookie:
$1.85
Punter:
$2.76
Silver Star Game
Hawks 61.578%
Tigers 38.422%
Bookie:
$1.23
Punter:
$1.62
Bookie:
$4.20
Punter:
$2.60
Gold Star Game
Premiership: 25 correct picks from 40 games. 62.50% accuracy.
Pre-Season: 11 correct picks from 15 games. 73.33% accuracy.
Total: 36 correct picks from 55 games. 65.45% accuracy.
8/13 62%
4/7 57%
12/20 60%
7/12 58%
4/4 100%
11/16 69%
Apr 16
Home Team Probability Away Team Probability Gold Silver
Saints 58.436%
Bombers 41.564%
Bookie:
$1.38
Punter:
$1.71
Bookie:
$3.05
Punter:
$2.41
Silver Star Game
Cats 67.139%
Swans 32.861%
Bookie:
$1.22
Punter:
$1.49
Bookie:
$4.30
Punter:
$3.04
Gold Star Game
Crows 54.423%
Dockers 45.577%
Bookie:
$1.43
Punter:
$1.84
Bookie:
$2.90
Punter:
$2.19
Silver Star Game
Lions 50.415%
Hawks 49.585%
Bookie:
$2.12
Punter:
$1.98
Bookie:
$1.72
Punter:
$2.02
Silver Star Game
Magpies 50.395%
Kangaroos 49.605%
Bookie:
$1.67
Punter:
$1.98
Bookie:
$2.20
Punter:
$2.02
Silver Star Game
Demons 44.919%
Blues 55.081%
Bookie:
$2.90
Punter:
$2.23
Bookie:
$1.41
Punter:
$1.82
Western Bulldogs 80.390%
Tigers 19.610%
Bookie:
$1.40
Punter:
$1.24
Bookie:
$2.95
Punter:
$5.10
Gold Star Game
Eagles 33.044%
Power 66.956%
Bookie:
$2.05
Punter:
$3.03
Bookie:
$1.90
Punter:
$1.49
Premiership: 19 correct picks from 32 games. 59.38% accuracy.
Pre-Season: 11 correct picks from 15 games. 73.33% accuracy.
Total: 30 correct picks from 47 games. 63.83% accuracy.
6/11 55%
4/7 57%
10/18 56%
5/8 63%
4/4 100%
9/12 75%
Apr 9

AFL Premiership 2008 - Round 4

Home Team Probability Away Team Probability Gold Silver
Bombers 39.723%
Western Bulldogs 60.277%
Bookie:
$2.30
Punter:
$2.52
Bookie:
$1.65
Punter:
$1.66
Saints 47.479%
Cats 52.521%
Bookie:
$4.10
Punter:
$2.11
Bookie:
$1.25
Punter:
$1.90
Kangaroos 65.817%
Demons 34.183%
Bookie:
$1.28
Punter:
$1.52
Bookie:
$3.75
Punter:
$2.93
Silver Star Game
Swans 47.218%
Eagles 52.782%
Bookie:
$1.24
Punter:
$2.12
Bookie:
$4.20
Punter:
$1.89
Power 37.325%
Lions 62.675%
Bookie:
$1.47
Punter:
$2.68
Bookie:
$2.75
Punter:
$1.60
Hawks 46.796%